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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi José,<br>
<br>
I think you are totally right your work for free software can be
re-used for different purpose.<br>
(By the way I don't know under which free licence is the
translation text produced on transifex<br>
by a translator: the same licence as the software it's for?)<br>
<br>
Concerning the specific case of Cyberduck. I can understand you
have the feeling to also help<br>
Mountain Duck, and it may be true.<br>
<br>
But as I wrote before, in this specific case, Cyberduck is under
GPL then I feel confident that the<br>
translation work is helping a free software that will remain free.<br>
That's why, I preferred to forget that it may also help Mountain
Duck that I consider secondary.<br>
Nevertheless you are right to put the point on the re-use of
translation work intended to a GPL software<br>
in a non-GPL software.<br>
<br>
Regards.<br>
<br>
<br>
José M. Ciordia wrote on 23/10/2016 at 16h03 : <br>
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<div>You're right Yann, Cyberduck is still GNU GPL, but I feel
that when I am translating to Spanish strings of Cyberduck I'm
at the same time translating (and helping) Mountain Duck wich
is propietary source. If this would be true (perhaps it isn't)
perhaps I would like to receive a free licence of Mountain
Duck as well, althought I would feel confortable asking for
it. <br>
<br>
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<div>I feel also unconfortable with the translation platform
Transifex, and for the same reasons. There you traslate an
opensource application, and at the same time you are donating
for free your translations to other propietary apllications,
because theese are paying the owners of Transifex for the
service you are giving them for free. So, you are working for
free for people wich earn money selling your translations. Do
you really know that? Dou you really agree or like?<br>
<br>
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<div>Does anybody know if I am understanding something wrongly?<br>
<br>
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<div>Jose<br>
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Translator to Spanish since +- 12 years</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2016-10-21 23:29 GMT+02:00 Yann
Ricquebourg <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:yann.ricquebourg@gmail.com" target="_blank">yann.ricquebourg@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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<div class="m_-573572173953270812moz-cite-prefix">Hello,<br>
<br>
I can understand and share the purpose of supporting
free software by our free contributions.<br>
<br>
But am I wrong when I still consider Cyberduck as Open
Source?<br>
(Under GPL as mentioned here <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="m_-573572173953270812moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://trac.cyberduck.io/" target="_blank">https://trac.cyberduck.io/</a>
)<br>
<br>
That's why, whatever frustrating may be the situation of
Mountain Duck,<br>
I consider it as a sort of "commercial" spin-off, as
other Open Source pieces of software can have,<br>
and I consider my work as a contribution to the Open
Source part (that will remain free thanks to the GPL),<br>
ignoring the other software...<br>
<br>
But I understand your point of view.<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
-Yann.
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<br>
Albert Lombarte wrote on 21/10/2016 at 19h04 : <br>
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<div dir="ltr">You are not alone José M, I decided
not to contribute back with translations when I
saw the path this was taking some time ago.
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<div>It's absolutely understandable and I am happy
that David can have some economical benefit
after all the effort during this years. But I
was contributing for the community, and not for
the personal interest of someone, so I better
put my effort on open source.</div>
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<div>Goodbye everyone. Also leaving the list.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>And thanks for the time that Cyberduck was
OS.</div>
<div><br>
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<div><br>
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<div>Saludos, salutacions, greetings</div>
<div>Albert</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2016-10-20 22:20
GMT+02:00 José M. Ciordia <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:ciordia@gmail.com"
target="_blank">ciordia@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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<div>Hi, everybody.<br>
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When I knew Mountain Duck and that it
is not free neither OpenSource, I
started hesitating if I would continue
translating Cyberduck (and Mountain
Duck) to Spanish. I only wanted you to
know it. <br>
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Bye, brothers.<span
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<span class="m_-573572173953270812HOEnZb"><font
color="#888888">José M. Ciordia<br>
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color="#888888"><a
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href="http://pompilos.org"
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Spain<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2016-10-20
21:05 GMT+02:00 Paulo Neto <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:layoutbr@lexxa.com.br"
target="_blank">layoutbr@lexxa.com.br</a>></span>:<br>
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style="margin:0 0 0
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solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi David,<br>
<br>
Remember me? You received my last
e-mails?<br>
<br>
Is possible send me a Mountain Duck
license key for my personal use?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Paulo<br>
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Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 at
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Subject: [Cyberduck-localization]
Localisations can now be maintained
at Transifex<br>
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Hi everyone!<br>
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I wanted to let you know that we
now allow to translate resources for
Cyberduck in Transifex [1]. We will
regularly pull changes from there
and integrate it to the Cyberduck
source code repository.<br>
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— David<br>
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